York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

[Nathaniel]

All C&C welcome.

(i) A sign as I entered the vicinity of York Minster



(ii) York Minster



(iii) One of the York Minster towers



(iv) Within York Minster



(v) Wider view within the Cathedral

[Pinkeez]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

Cathedrals and Churches are very photogenic aren't they?
I love the irony of the first picture.
the trouble with cathedrals for me is that I find it hard to take the whole scene as I don't always want people in them. as I want the building o be the star.
on the outside, I try to take isolated parts of the architecture if I can't get the whole thing, or perhaps a pano shot.
No 4, I would have gone nearer to the archway, frame the shot using the arch as a"frame" and focus over the heads of the visitors to miss them altogether. same in 5 really. I just think the people are a bit of a distraction from what is some wonderful architecture.
just my thoughts

[Nathaniel]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

I fully agree with your comments David. It is a very difficult task. Ideally I would have liked the cathedral to my self, my camera,tripod etc, but this is always wishful thinking. I thought of going far away to avoid the dreaded converging verticals with wide angle lenses but there was no clear sight of the cathedral. The next time I intend taking a proper wide angle shot and then straigten the lines via PS- the only way out for me!!!!!!! I think people will aways be around such magnificent buildings.

[Canon-Fodder!]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

Hi Nathaniel;

York Minster is huge; there's no way we mere mortals are ever going to get a clear shot of the whole of the facade, and, as you rightly say, there will always be way too many people there to get a 'clear' shot, although that's not always neccessary...

Anyhow, your shot #3 (concentrating on the tower detail) is by far and away the best IMO. It would benefit from the merest clockwise rotation to centre and straighten the leading line; but other than that, well done. Seems your photography is coming on in leaps & bounds! As far as converging verticals is concerned; I don't worry too much about large buildings like this; your natural sight will see tall towers converge and parallel lines merge!.

And also well done for the internal shots... I venture to suggest that just a year ago, you wouldn't have dreamt of playing with the settings as you have... ISO800 indeed

[Nathaniel]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

Quite right CF and thanks for your comments. I would never have attempted these shots before & am grateful for all the advice and C&C from members. Just one point I would like to know. I have tried to keep the people on a good horizontal line,(as natural as possible) but the interior of the church looks a bit askew. why?

[Canon-Fodder!]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

Just one point I would like to know. I have tried to keep the people on a good horizontal line,(as natural as possible) but the interior of the church looks a bit askew. why?

It's an optical illusion.

In the last image the people are on the tilt as well! (And I promise I have NOT been on the bottle at this hour of the day... ) The first interior shot is better, but since you're off the centre-line, it still gives an illusion of bias towards the right...

That raises the point of 'focus of attention'... Since your 'focus' was to be the interior of the church/minster, the people should have been a secondary consideration!

Cheers...

[paul linton]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

Hi Nathaniel
Agree with CF your image of the tower is the best,you've got some good detail in the stone and the exposure is spot on.Well done.

Paul

[George Bear]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

Well done Nathaniel. You'll be wanting the 17mm TS-E on a 5D2 next ;-)

[Canon-Fodder!]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

(i) A sign as I entered the vicinity of York Minster...

I'm assuming that communion wine has a exemption

[Nathaniel]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

Paul,George and CF, many thanks for all your encouragement. I am getting somewhere at last.

Paul as you are in Beverley and I will attach another photo of the Bishop Martyn with better facial front.

George, I keep on trying. Quite a lot to learn with digital cameras. I am hopeless at IT and all that computer stuff. I used to get round this problem when the children were living with us but they have flown the "nest" and I am perhaps "paying the price" now. I don't think I can ever afford the T&S lens although it will solve many of my problems. UK has such a fine archtectural heritage(so does Europe as a whole) and it is a pity that many people don't appreciate them.

CF, communion wine is certainly EXEMPT from the COUNCIL'S restrictions!!!! An interesting point for you to think of is when the celebrant MISCALCULATES the quantity of fine to be blessed and served- it is a rule that the "balance " should be consumed before the service ends(unless kept for home visits,hospital visits etc), and I know of a few "assistants" who had to finish off quite a lot of the BLESSED WINE, and wern't they "tipsy"???. An experienced celebrant has to estimate how many "sips" per person in the congregation & have that quantity blessed.

I also find that on my computer the people are all standing as they should -photo No #5- no tilt. I now agree that the building should have come first and not the people. Point taken for future use.

[Canon-Fodder!]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

I also find that on my computer the people are all standing as they should -photo No #5- no tilt...

Perhaps your head's at an angle ...

Here's the image straightened...



People rarely stand bolt upright, so it's difficult to use them as a guide to what is or isn't straight & level... How does that look?

And here it is with a bit of perspective correction applied; just as an example...

[Nathaniel]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

Magnificient shot CF. Exactly as I would have liked it to be. I call it computer/technical wizardry!!!

[Canon-Fodder!]

Re: York Minster- Sat 13th Nov

Magnificient shot CF. Exactly as I would have liked it to be. I call it computer/technical wizardry!!!

Harry Potter is not gonna lose any sleep over me! No real wizadry there... Nothing you can't do in DPP in just a couple of seconds...